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| If you are an experienced pot smoker, marijuana doesn't affect your task performance, according to a new study. |
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Jen Woods said:
Wow, that is so coo ldudd
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Posted 07/09/2010 at 10:30:50 PM
Anonymous replied to Jen Woods:
Posted 07/11/2010 at 10:37:18 AM
Thank you for the video! I will be making much good use of it politically! Thank you.
Isubmitted a request to reschedule cannabis to the DEA, FDA, Dept of HHS, and the Attorney General along with all my state congress, and federal reps. I will be sharing it with all of them and adding it as a supplemental to my request. Thank you!
Posted 08/01/2010 at 03:18:44 AM
Anonymous said:
Is this supposed to be breaking news?
I thought everyone knew this already.
Posted 07/09/2010 at 11:16:59 PM
Jeff said:
Is the public really this far behind with their facts?
Posted 07/10/2010 at 12:46:03 AM
Dyn said:
My own experience supports this. I've always found tolerance being built up rather quickly to some aspects of the effect while not so much to other apsects.
A friend would call it "finding yourself in the weed" - when you've smoked long enough to get a pleasant high while being able to navigate the high efortlessly.
Even when I've been smoking daily for a while, introducing a new strain of weed to my body can put me in a sort of "beginners high" the first time.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 03:00:21 AM
I wonder replied to Dyn:
This is something I'd like more info on. I'm a new Medical Marijuana user after over decade of narcs. I have HIGH resistance to both and was way the point where the increasing doses of narcs and tries to stronger ones... well it was the end of the road. None left stronger, so now what? I can take what I am pretty darn sure is a fatal dose to normal people, just to get eh pain at a level to live. The MJ I also have the tolerance, except increasing doses in NOT dangerous and so far still effective. The narcs have made a mess of my body, mind, and my poor innards... a mess.
I once asked my doctor why I have NO mental effect and high from narcotics, no matter how much and why I am not mentally addicted. Have been warned a few times not to throw all those drugs out and "QUIT." I have a physical addiction my mind fights with. ( I now have the same thing with the medmj) He told me my body needs and uses those meds for the immense pain and that someone taking the stuff and not needing as much will not have the tolerance and will get high. Also new uses with no tolerance will get high. (i never remember this)
Perhaps hos poor English did not translate right... Sounded like a total crock of crap to me!
Here I find the same thing happening with medical MJ. Still relieves the ailments, loses the high or any other effect I can tell.
On all those narcs, I was appearing normal to others on good days, but know myself about the terrible memory loss, inability to concentrate as well, and feeling generally stupid when my education says I'm not. For the amount I was taking, I was closer to normal than newer narc users. Still to good enough.
Medical Marijuana too no time at all to get used to. Months, not years. I feel no high, no mental effect, and the dense fog about seems to be lifting. It's still far from who I was, but a big improvement over the mental nightmares and blackouts from the narcs.
However, I would disagree that there is no mental impairment. I think improved concentration is definite, but feel my job performance (If I could work) would be better than if on narcotics, but not without some changes.
I think of all those potheads in Amsterdam, stoned and running tourist traps. They seemed happy and childlike, but could not hold a conversation for more than a sentence.
On the other hand... this is recreational use. Perhaps like the narcs, a medical user will not feel the same. Time will tell for me.
Fellow medical users, if you were running a high dollar business, would you want to hire an employee who would come to work and be a leader and essential player in your company.. not talking ,McDondalds or selling shoes. Let's think company vice president for good ol software or such. I would not wan to hire someone using this, even now. Nor would I wish to hire someone using narcotic pain killers. I also would not wish to hire women with or expecting children. Talking about reduced job performance for someone to be leaving early or coming in late with continual kid issues. I'd take the narc user first, pot user second (medical), and woman with kids or heaven forbid pregnant, or even newly wed, very last.
In a decade of Medical marijuana use, perhaps I'll be better able to compare.
I'm just curious if all the pot bashers have ever even tried the stuff? I slipped my grandma some because she was in bad pain one night. (she ate it unaware) and she commented the next day she never slept better and didn't hurt all night. Thought it was divine intervention of course. :-P
I'll be very interested in further studies as I am sure all employers in medical Mj states will be.
Posted 07/11/2010 at 01:39:23 AM
obvious said:
That's because when you are smoking this much, your brain is so constantly and permanently impaired that smoking recently doesn't affect it as much ratio wise.
A better comparison would be a constant smoker to non-smokers. Any ideas on why this data wasn't provided? hmmmm....
Posted 07/10/2010 at 03:43:05 AM
Paul replied to obvious:
Well given you would need identical twins with one being a pothed and the other not to do the test your suggesting. How do you compare person A to person B - a stupid Person A who dont smoke pot would perform alot slower than person B who does and is intellegent.
Or you could get a pot head - dry them out for 90 days and then run the tests, of course the wont be ideal as once they have run thru a test - running it a second time will impact the results, to bias more positivly anyhow.
So you get back to the identical twins aspect.
I personaly like the test they did on drivers in the UK to see if they performed like drunk people, sadly they found them to be safer as they drove more responsibly and aware.
Will it get legalised, well in a fashion eventualy but look how they legalised booze.
We know prohibition dont work, and we know as its illegal you end up with all kinds of crap being passed of, tainted and posioness, so osme legality/regulation even the pot heads are for as long as they can have a peaceful smoke in return.
Health wise it offers alot, stress - what stress, even helps anxiety, well except those that worry about breaking the law, then it realy dont help them.
But what does this test tell us, it tells us that the body adapts, some easier than others as well I think you will find. Remember when it comes to drugs and the brain, the whole legal profesionaly prescribed ones are akin to a blind person colourmatching. Its very hit and miss, not all brains are alike, common in area's yes, but alike, nope.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 08:52:16 AM
T replied to Paul:
Paul, you wouldn't need identical twins to perform the study that @obvious describes, you would just need an appropriate sample of both smokers and non-smokers and measure the correlations. Smoking weed all the time makes people stupid, and you're naive or in denial if you think otherwise. To all of you who think you are just as smart and quick while smoking as when you are sober, try putting the bong down for a few weeks and see how you feel then. I guarantee if you can get over your own bias and arrogance you will see a notable difference in your mental/physical performance. I know how easy it is to rationalize the "benefits" of getting high over the negative effects (I lied to myself for years), but stop fooling yourselves. This study, or what is explained of it in this post, is clearly self-serving and explains why a pro-marijuana website published it.
Again, @obvious is exactly right. I'd love to see a test like that performed and hear how you stoner fools would defend your daily habit then...
Posted 07/10/2010 at 02:52:25 PM
Disagree replied to T:
On occasion, we do. I like to call it a cleanse, it is the process of cutting back or cutting out marijuana in order to reduce your tolerance, Thus making the high better when you return. I disagree entirely with what you said, I think it's very ignorant. I know of many successful potheads, and many of todays inventions that make your life so much easier was done so with a little bit of "extra creativity" from your wife and mine, Mary Jane. She allows brains to flow unobstructed by contentment and limits.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 03:53:21 PM
del said:
I was gonna make a really witty comment......But I cant remember what it was.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 05:05:10 AM
inconspicuous said:
@Obvious - you are right to ask where the numbers are, and your criticism is nearly on the mark. The link provided in the article only leads to the abstract.
The full text won't be available for free - you'll need to pay for a subscription. I'm guessing that "Toke of the Town" isn't exactly raking in the big bucks and paying the subscription fee to have these scientific journals on hand.
Although if any marijuana online magazines want to really take their stuff seriously, they should start subscribing to various research journals that might report on their topic as I suspect a flood of marijuana research will be coming for the immediate future.
With all the debate over legalization, facts are stronger than hear-say and experience any day.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 06:40:46 AM
Feldwebel Wolfenstool said:
Marijuana causes police to become addicted to paycheques.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 07:33:57 AM
Jess said:
my own personal experience also supports this, but that is purely anecdotal. 24 people does not a relaible study make.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 09:53:52 AM
welcometoreality said:
The comments in this thread are enough evidence to show that smoking pot really does make you stupid. Most of you are failures at spelling, grammar, and overall logic. Of course there are no changes in the subjects, they've already smoked themselves stupid, don't tell me they're the same when smoking as when they're not smoking. They're probably retarded at both times so its too late to see a difference. Try actually having some real controlled factors in a study and try proving something that isnt obvious and make it into some misleading "facts"
Posted 07/10/2010 at 11:20:46 AM
WhySoPresumptuous replied to welcometoreality:
If you're going to mock others' grammar, you should probably correct your own run-on sentences/comma splices. I know countless successful daily smokers who also happen to be some of the most intelligent and kind folks out there. It's stereotypical pretexts like those found in your arrogant and ignorant comment that keep our country a backward-thinking one. Cannabis is safer than aspirin and, yet, we feel the need to keep it illegal because pharmaceutical companies can't put a patent it and turn a profit (among other reasons.)
Posted 07/10/2010 at 11:51:55 AM
Phil replied to welcometoreality:
"its too late" should be "it's too late". Maybe you were drunk at the time.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 02:14:22 PM
Paul Dirac replied to welcometoreality:
If I were to go by your reasoning, I would have to assume that the vast majority of people who leave comments on the internet smoke marijuana quite regularly.
I don't exactly expect people to compose comments on blogs like they would a term paper.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 02:16:03 PM
Phil replied to welcometoreality:
I overlooked that "something that isn't obvious" should be "something that isn't obvious".
Posted 07/10/2010 at 03:33:24 PM
Chris said:
Personally I agree with this. But for those who are bashing it, you have to remember this is a news source, the actual studied hasn't been posted. Before coming down on how the study was conducted I would first refer to the original study paper.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 12:44:01 PM
lookatit said:
In a older Penn & Teller Episode they showed an Investment banker who was prescriped pure thick marijuana joints from the goverment for an rare illness. The Programm was abandoned years ago but he still receives huge amounts of prerolled joints so he can smoke 3 times a day to be relieved from pain. The Guy is an STOCK BROKER and smokes marijuana daily, for Years ! And he just described it as "little bit difficult" to do is job after smokin his lunch time medicine.
So Yeah smoking isnt that bad for your mind. I sat next to a guy in school who did bong hits before math class and he was doing alright.
>> here i found the vid it starts about 7 minutes in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYvrrHNDTHM
Posted 07/10/2010 at 01:06:45 PM
Isaac said:
Weed is harmless!! it should just be legalized already.
Posted 07/10/2010 at 06:44:19 PM
micknacksrx Southside 46 said:
man! weed even gives you the best erections! you should legalize it! and those how would rape other people by the influence of weed.... i guess they should be killed... too bad... but still legalize it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 07/11/2010 at 02:45:37 AM
micknacksrx Southside 46 said:
the people who always forget are those people who are lazy to remember the thing and only thinks about weed.... use weed properly... just like using salvia properly...=) Natural "high" causes no harm=)
Posted 07/11/2010 at 02:50:03 AM
Joe said:
Hey everyone chill out and smoke a joint or something. People saying things along the lines of "oh everyone knew this already" need to understand that to scientists, knowledge comes from proving it under very controlled experiments and observations.
Just cause some pot head says he gets high to help him get A's on exams, for example, or it makes him play call of duty better, doesn't mean anything to a scientist. It is hearsay.
So the experiment is to PROVE it. And they did. Maybe those idiots who make the above the influence commercials will learn to read so they can read this article.
Posted 07/11/2010 at 01:35:22 PM
Anonymous said:
"...although smoked marijuana did increase the amount of time participants needed to complete these tasks..."
No loss of accuracy, but you have to get your fill of potato chips or you won't finish!
Posted 07/11/2010 at 03:17:51 PM
Tyler A Clark said:
so... take a good look white house, if your telling people to slow down on the road give them weed, if you want them to take their time, give them weed.
Posted 07/13/2010 at 07:22:25 AM
Judith Andrich said:
Just like alcohol, you have to take more and more to get the same bang for your buck. A natural high is the absolute best!
And what is it doing to your lungs?
Posted 07/14/2010 at 06:00:47 AM
him replied to Judith Andrich:
And Judith, what of those who are unable to achieve a natural high as easily as most people? Deny them enjoyment because their body's chemistry is a bit differently orchestrated? Those with anhedonia?
Posted 07/17/2010 at 03:01:40 PM
Manny Kelly said:
While I am a full on supporter of legalization, this article didn't make clear, how well did those 24+ per week smokers4performed compared to a control group of non-stoned, non-smokers.
What I mean is, to me this sounds as if its describing permastone just as readily as tolerance to cognitive effects.
Posted 07/18/2010 at 07:46:46 PM
squinty maginty said:
i think this is still news... i didn't know it was proven that this was fact i just could tell from being a big stoner myself. Peace
Posted 07/20/2010 at 02:18:25 AM
Truth said:
I can personally attest to this, after smoking large quantities very frequently for the past few months, I've found that the initial debilitating effects definitely went down with increased use. I may need to smoke more to get a pleasant high due to high tolerance, but this "comfort-zone" has actually negated all the bad effects(the anxiety, panic, etc).
Why does the FDA tell people they have to sacrifice their liver, their dignity(with addiction), and overall suffer because the pharmaceutical company wants to profit from the use of controlled chemicals?
Posted 07/26/2010 at 03:22:09 AM
KingofthePaupers said:
Jct: Another prohibitionist lie bites the dust. Heavy losses recently.
Posted 08/04/2010 at 04:49:15 AM

