Hi tokeofthetown! If driving is the issue, then let's by all means add cell phones and texting to the equation. Not to mention cold medicine use.
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The bill, AB 2552, sponsored by Norma Torres (D-Pomona), would make any driver found with above-zero levels of cannabinoids in blood or urine presumptively guilty of DUI.
"Since cannabinoids remain in the system for days or weeks after last use, the bill would effectively outlaw driving by every marijuana user in the state," said Dale Gieringer of California NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws).
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| Dale Gieringer, Cal NORML: "There is no scientific basis for zero-tolerance DUI standards" |
"There is no scientific basis for zero-tolerance DUI standards," Gieringer said.
"To begin with, there is no relationship between impairment and the presence of cannabinoids in urine.
"Secondly, there is no relationship between impairment and the presence of non-psychoactive cannabinoid metabolites in blood.
"Third, there is extensive evidence that safe driving is not incompatible with low levels of THC in the blood," Gieringer said.
Cal NORML regards defeat of this bill as a major legislative priority, according to Gieringer.
To read the entire text of AB 2552, click here.
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The possibility of this stupid piece of legislation actually becoming law should motivate everyone who uses cannabis medically, spiritually or recreationally to donate to and support signature gathering for the Regulate Marijuana Like Wine initiative (regulatemarijuanalikewine (dot) com).
Clueless Stoners in Colorado are begging the Government to Regulate Marijuana LIKE Alcohol !!
... reap what ye sow, morons !
See you Anti-I-502 people. They will pass this crazy limits with out us. We might as well vote for I 502 this way you will get legal weed.
502 is Orwellian "Legalization", double-talk. They just got voted out of the booze business, not you want to hand them our grass? Buy a State grown and sold ounce. No growing, can't grow any at home, that legalization? Then this DUI mess, you want he State to take your Blood cause a cop smells weed? Decriminalize!!
You're correct. Get it legal then prove that the nanogram thingy is bullshit since white, fat, bald, old men are now getting DUI's for legal weed.
They tried to pass a simliar bill in Colorado...this ain't gonna fly. The insurance underwriting limit for firefighters & police is currently 50 nanograms, so how on EARTH can they say that zero tolerance is going to work? Morons.
Also U.S. Patent #6630507 titled “Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants” which is assigned to The United States of America, as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services is about to be licensed out...yes, for profit.
The federal government now intends to grant an exclusive license to “practice the invention embodied in U.S. Patent 6,630,507” to a single New York based pharmaceutical corporation. In accordance with regulations that dictate how exclusive licenses may be granted on Government owned inventions, 37 CFR part 404.7 (a)(1) (i), the HHS published notice of its intentions in the November 17th edition of the Federal Register. With a posting entitled “Prospective Grant of Exclusive License: Development of Cannabinoid(s) and Cannabidiol(s) Based Therapeutics to Treat Hepactic Encephalopathy in Humans,” the Department of Health and Human Services announced its plan to grant KannaLife Sciences, Inc. an exclusive license to “development and sale of cannabinoid(s) and cannabidiol(s) based therapeutics as antioxidants and neuroprotectants for use and delivery in humans. ”
So... if Cannabinoids are found in your urine and/ or bloodstream what happens to the pharma side? I'd say they just shot themselves in the foot. Idiocracy is alive and well in America. ;(
DUI laws present the State with a new revenue steam, saving the children from evil and reckless stoned drivers. The writing is on the wall, anything with a Police State Blood draw must be voted down. This of course way includes I502, a very bad Orwellian law.
didnt norml just support another bill with a THC DUI thing in it? wah wah, norml looks fucking stupid on this issue now...
Yeah, because all "THC DUI things" are the same. (And just for the record, I think the 5 nanogram limit in I-502 is bad but not a deal-breaker in the context of the larger initiative.) THIS on the other hand is f***ing outrageous! Someone please tell me this has no chance of passing.
This is how the psychotics play. They would never have a zero tolerance for alcohol, their drug of choice, and yet alcohol contributes greatly to the death and destructions on Americas highways.
Yep, my view is that if we are going to pass per se drugged driving laws setting permissible levels for various drugs in one’s system, we shouldn’t discriminate on the basis of the type of drug that’s causing impairment. Right now, the legal limit for drunk driving is a B.A.C. of 0.08. According to the interwebs, someone who is right at that limit is 11 times more likely to be in an accident. So let’s find the amount of active THC it takes to raise the risk of an accident 11-fold and set that as the legal limit. (I wonder if it's even possible. My guess is you'd have to come pretty close to the mythical 15,000 joints supposedly required to cause a fatal overdose in order to achieve a similar level of impairment.)
I saw we have a stoned driving test. I'll take it on my motorcycle. Only bad drivers would have an issue.
Its reasons like this that its good that dems and repubs infighting keeps things from getting done. Both sides are idiots with very bad ideas and when they cooperate then all they do is pass bad ideas. Keep the bi-partisanship going.
Should be right up there with the zero tolerance for any alcohol bill. Oh wait there isn't one of those because these self righteous politicians would never introduce such a bill. Norma is just trying to make a name for herself so the voters will remember her. Now she just looks ignorant or plain stupid and I am sure that's how people will remember her.
I know one person who will support this, Toke of the towns resident troll.The one, the only, Donkey_Hotay!
She will reply once she gets her lips unwrapped from around that phalic looking bottle of booze.
Call her office and tell her this is BS! And if she is not your state rep, call him or her and ask if they plant to support it and urge them to denounce and not vote on this radical knee jerk response. And demand that there also be a zero tolerance for alcohol. Contact Assemblymember Norma Torres: Capitol Office: State Capitol P.O. Box 942849 Sacramento, CA 94249-0061 Tel: (916) 319-2061 Fax: (916) 319-2161 District Office: 13160 7th Street Chino, CA 91710 Tel: (909) 902-9606 Fax: (909) 902-9761 http://lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.go... Web Site lcmspubcontact.lc.ca.gov
What percent of Norma's constituency want her to introduce a bill like this?
Is she a Doctor? Does she even have ANY qualifications that would make me think she has any idea what she's introducing or even talking about?
With NO scientific data to back this up, it seems to me like she's representing someone other that the people she's supposed to (LEO's & prison industrial complex maybe?).
How quickly can she be voted out?! Maybe that lame law can just apply to Pomona.
That way she'll be the only one left in that city (with her kop buddies).
