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NorCalNative said:
Another great WIN for the U.S. police state. Pathetic.
Posted 02/03/2010 at 11:18:03 AM
HumBoldt replied to NorCalNative:
Just who are the criminals? Big Business doesn't want MJ to become legal so they send their representatives to Washington. We the people don't enter the equation any more.
Our elected officials are dragging their feet because they've been told to. When you listen to their arguments you realize their agenda has to do with keeping things the same or put another way keeping the cash cow producing uninterrupted. So how is this done? By Keeping up the War on Drugs. You know, the one that doesn't work and never has. The ONLY thing the War on Drugs has going for it is that outwardly it sounds good. There DOES need to be a war on Druid, but one that works and the only way it's going to work is to beat the dealers at their own game.
One of the arguments revolves around children. On the surface that sounds responsible until you see the lie. Drug dealers recruit kids to sell to their peers. This is how kids are getting MJ. Legalize MJ and regulate it like alcohol. What will happen is the dealers will evaporate. Supply and demand, works every time. If you can get it at the store or grow your own the dealer is out of the picture. No dealers, no kids being recruited who in turn to sell to their peers. This is not rocket science. The current War on Drugs WILL keep things the way they are. Is that acceptable to you?
Posted 02/03/2010 at 02:45:32 PM
Anonymous replied to HumBoldt:
Posted 04/27/2010 at 08:01:59 AM
satch replied to HumBoldt:
you're an idiot. it has nothing to do with big business and everything to do with big gov't. do you really think philip morris (and other tobacco companies) wouldn't love to start rolling up joints by the millions?
Posted 04/27/2010 at 08:19:24 AM
steve replied to satch:
pretty sure pharmaceutical companies make a lot more money than tobacco companies, and they are the ones that don't want medical MJ to replace their products.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 09:52:58 AM
Duane replied to steve:
Medical MJ is crap, and not handled by pharmas. It's usually handled by gov't contract by small/med sized agricultural companies.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 01:01:46 PM
anon replied to Duane:
The fact that medical marijuana is not handled by pharmaceutical companies is exactly why the pharmaceutical companies would not want it legalized. Marijuana could easily replace many of their high-priced pain medications and since they are not in the MJ business, they have an interest in preventing legalization of MJ to minimize competition. You can bet your life pharm. lobbyists have good footing in Washington over this issue.
Posted 04/28/2010 at 11:32:05 AM
Big Business replied to satch:
One of the primary reasons why MJ is illegal in the first place is because the cotton and timber industries did not want hemp to take away their market. Do the research son.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 11:11:49 AM
Angers replied to Big Business:
Big Business;
You are the one that needs to research if you think cotton farmers are making a bundle. Corporate Ag like Monsanto maybe. If the gov. could figure out how to tax weed, it would be legalized in a minute. Why do you think that it is prosecuted under RICO?
Posted 04/28/2010 at 05:18:01 PM
Angry Rabble replied to Angers:
They were back in the days when it was first made illegal. Ever see the show history of MJ?
Posted 04/29/2010 at 09:17:46 AM
Jeremy replied to satch:
Actually it is more due to the private prison industry. The more illegal things there are the more money they make. We have more Americans imprisoned now than ever before. Many of them on simple possession.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 12:11:02 PM
Chris Wi replied to Jeremy:
I think it's safe to assume all of the above. In the early days the cotton industry plaid a huge role. They ran inflammatory articles in the press and threw a lot of money around to make sure that people believed marijuana and all of its relatives (hemp) were extremely dangerous. This is well documented. Today I think pretty much every group mentioned above is actively fighting legalization for they're various self interests. Certainly the pharmaceuticals companies don't want it legal, and the private prison industry greatly benefits from the influx inmates. I don't think we can count cotton out either. They are still a large industry and I'm sure are also a driving force. I don't know about big tobacco. It seems like they could benefit from it, but then again it's a lot easier to grow weed on your own than tobacco and weed is less addictive.
Posted 04/29/2010 at 12:18:47 PM
Ames replied to satch:
What is the diff between big gov and big business? This whole thing is over 30 years old and ridiculous.
I don't even smoke the MJ and I am generally a law abiding citizen, even I think this is a stupid trumped up, trying to prove a point to old harmless hippies, "charge"
I have personally seen people in pain (true pain) who were able to abandon Rx, ADDICTIVE pain meds in favor of weed with amazing results! It is only ILLEGAL because it is beyond the point of taxation!
Posted 04/28/2010 at 12:56:29 AM
Michael De Paulo replied to HumBoldt:
Why in God's name would you think that the Government would want to legalize something that grows for FREE. It's called weed for a reason: all you need is 4 square feet of soil, sunshine and water and ANYONE can SUCCESSFULLY grow their own. There is no money in legalization. (I know I would grow my own--wouldn't you?) If everyone grew their own, how would the Government make any money? Furthermore, if people smoked more weed they would likely drink less. Alcohol IS taxed and produces substantial revenue; the Government is not going to mess with that golden goose. Wake up--this is, was and always will be strictly about money (id est: tax revenue).
Posted 04/27/2010 at 09:57:49 AM
lawyers-like-2-smoke-too replied to Michael De Paulo:
im not really getting into this discussion because it has been a major debate since nixon declared the war on drugs. but however one argument was made that weed grows FREE so the government cant profit from it since anyone can grow. this is true, yet did you forget that tobacco is a plant too? which can also be grown in many many places? yet the government regulates and distributes tobacco(throught the tobacco companies) so the same could be done with weed if they ever wanted to do so.
yet the government wont legalize it because of the fact that they earn(and spend) so much money to run the war on drugs. it really is a shame since at least 1/3 of all the incarcerated people in federal prisons are there because of a marijuana charge, which means over $20k is spent on housing that ONE druggie in jail for a year. but they continue to have money in their fund for imprisonment and fighting the war on drugs in general.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 12:09:26 PM
StonedHippy420 replied to Michael De Paulo:
You know people can brew their own beer and hard liquor for much cheaper than buying it from a store. Why don't they? Oh yeah, for the same reason people would purchase cannabis from a store instead of growing it themselves. Duh!
Posted 04/27/2010 at 12:58:33 PM
shane replied to StonedHippy420:
Well no, not everyone would grow it - but enough people would - and it would be as cheep as dirt ...if i grew and Michael DP would - i'm sure that would be plenty for personal use amonst you and your friends. So i believe that Michael is right - it's more of an unattended thing... blackberries grow everywhere where I live - and i'm sure that if weed was legal - it would be growing in ditches. The actual real profit is from Hemp - if weed was legal - Hemp and all it's products would make the real difference and Big $$$ - textiles/food/wood/pulp/animal feed/fuel/...etc
Posted 04/29/2010 at 10:20:49 AM
noline replied to NorCalNative:
The Progressives have betrayed us all. Vote the big Government Progressives out this November. Bring Obama Down.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 06:02:50 AM
Goldie replied to noline:
Exactly how is a 30 yr old felony charge Obama's fault?
Posted 04/27/2010 at 06:51:13 AM
Kyle replied to noline:
Except we progressives are the ones working against prohibition. That's called progress. *Republican* Ronnie Reagan ramped up *republican* Dick Nixon's War on (some) Drugs after a wave of decriminalization in the 1970s with a special focus on cannabis.
We can really thank the conservatives for this.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 07:12:32 AM
shane replied to noline:
really, ??? you're really going to make this an Obama issue - you are dim, Obama and every administration has no interest in ANYTHING that is actually progressive - the game of politics in 2010 is not the same game that was played in the 60's ...todays game is all about $$$ - and how much can you grab while its your turn to run with the flag... i don't think there is a stuffed shirt in wash. that actually gives a shit about your quality of life - not a fuckin chance - just a bunch of pigs suckling at the corporate tit.
Posted 04/29/2010 at 10:25:57 AM
Febie replied to NorCalNative:
How to play the cops for fools! = http://bit.ly/8Xs1yZ
Posted 04/27/2010 at 06:40:34 AM
NCCPN President said:
All the more reason to get this medical program enacted in every state across the country. Look at that poor old woman. She doesn't need to be in jail!!! What happened to the statute of limitations. This kind of thing makes me ashamed of my government!!!!! Shame, Shame, Shame Obama, this woman should be given a pardon.
Posted 02/03/2010 at 12:13:57 PM
alapoet replied to NCCPN President:
Love your blog, NCCPN President!
Posted 02/03/2010 at 12:42:42 PM
Thom replied to NCCPN President:
I'm all for legalizing and taxing it.
That said you asked : "What happened to the statute of limitations."
That doesn't apply when you have a warrant out for your arrest. You don't get to run away from a criminal charge and wait for the statute of limitations to kick in. Nor should you.
That said, lets legalize it and get these cases in the past.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 09:22:50 PM
Sign Hash said:
I personally am starting to believe the Justice system is the criminal. Isn't it time to step up to 2010 and get a current perspective?
Posted 02/03/2010 at 04:31:00 PM
OldUncleDave said:
This is total bullshit. I predict the charges will be dropped when the state can't produce evidence and witnesses from thirty years ago.
Posted 02/05/2010 at 08:29:34 AM
Phil E. Drifter said:
OldUncleDave: only if she has her own lawyer. If she gets a public defender, the public defender will do everything in their power to get her to accept a plea bargain, which bypasses the right to trial in exchange for a lesser sentence.
Posted 02/17/2010 at 12:04:41 AM
Susierr said:
What a stupid thing to spend tax dollars on! Please EVERYONE JOIN Norml or MPP or another marijuana-friendly organization and help get this legalized once & for all!
Posted 02/17/2010 at 04:54:30 AM
Shirl said:
This is total bulls*** ... She looks real dangerous OMG! watch out for the stoner grannie... We really need to be wasting tax dollars on busting pot heads. They need to re-open all the old pot busts and bring those terrible people to justice! F**k me runnin, could our pot laws be anymore ridiculous?
Shame on you dea, or whoever is responsible for this.
Posted 02/20/2010 at 08:25:52 AM
Better Than'u said:
The point is that she broke the law. Personally, I am happy the government is looking out for my safety (I am probably too dumb). Who knows how many lives that she has ruined. I hope this is her third strike and we spend tons of money to get her evil ass in prison for life. 1980 is the same time period that President Regan declared smoking one marijuana cigarette was equivalent to being on an island during an A-Bomb detonation. President Regan was not a total %$#^& though, because In late 1986, Ronald Reagan pardoned Junior Johnson for his moonshining felonies (he bragged of running in excess of 150 mph in the dark of night, to deliver his better than marijuana liquid). In conclusion, little old ladies with plants are EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. For our safety that is.
Posted 02/20/2010 at 04:10:34 PM
jordo replied to Better Than'u:
You have got to be one of the most ignorant people that I have ever had the displeasure of reading. You are a moron to say we need to spend $ on prosocting and old lady for something that should not be illegal in the first place. You talk about moonshine, how many people die BECAUSE of excess alcohol everyday?? Not a one dies because of weed, again you are a MORON
Posted 03/09/2010 at 12:22:22 PM
anon replied to jordo:
Dude, this guy is clearly trolling. In other words, he was being satirical, and it totally went over your head.
Posted 04/26/2010 at 08:48:45 PM
jordos retarded replied to jordo:
I think what better than u said was supposed to come off as sarcasm. I'm just saying you might have smoked yourself retarded and that old lady cracks me up I think ill make that my background
Posted 04/27/2010 at 05:56:30 AM
Buckus said:
Oh fuck you Better Than'u. I'd be happy if the government locked up ignorant assholes like you. You should have been sterilized at birth.
Posted 02/24/2010 at 09:24:30 PM
High right now said:
THE ONLY THING AMERICA IS #1 AT IS BEING AN ASSHOLE
Posted 03/09/2010 at 08:17:00 AM
Jonathan I. Medley said:
Do you have any mailing list, or oppertunities for Advocacy in my area? I worked in Healthcare, until I had to go on SSI Disability, for Fibromyalgia (a chronic pain disorder). I plan to go back to school to be a Therapist, it is less physical than Nursing. Please contact me:
Jonathan I. Medley
11834 Lee Rd. 240
Phenix City, AL 36870
(334) 297-9795
ala_boi7@ctvea.net
Posted 04/01/2010 at 02:34:31 PM
Steve Elliott ~alapoet~ replied to Jonathan I. Medley:
Jonathan, are you in contact with Alabamians for Compassionate Care?
Check your email... I sent you some info about them. They're a great group of folks.
Here's a Toke of the Town article about them:
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2010/03/determined_in_dixie_medical_marijuana_by_2012_in_a.php
Posted 04/01/2010 at 04:53:23 PM
New Brunswick said:
I live 5 miles from the US border and cannot enter the US because of a pot possession charge from 1980 (31 years ago). I was 18 at the time and am 49 now. What's worse is I have no criminal record with the RCMP and the only record of the offence is a court document from the county I was prosecuted in (which I had to dig for to get a copy of). The only reason US Immigration knows about the charge is because I told them about it on one occasion while travelling across the border. Until this day came I was travelling back and forth across the border regularly.
I've had several waivers since then ( they are good for 5 years now)and the last one ran out in 2008. The processing time is about 6 months and the total costs are right around $1000 Cdn. Here is some of the bullshit you have to go thru to get one:
-fill out the waiver app and pay a fee of around $600 US (this must be a money order drawn on a US bank)
-get fingerprinted by US Immigration (there a fee for this too)
-get fingerprinted by RCMP ( there a fee for this too)
-send RCMP fingerprints to get a copy of your criminal record (if there is one...and by the way there is a fee for this too)
-get three letters of character from upstanding Canadians that know you (by the way they never call to check out the people whose letters you include)
-write a letter about yourself and how you've changed your evil ways
Needless to say the process is a bitch. I hired a lawyer to do the first one but have done subsequent ones on my own. And get this - you don't do this just once you do it every time ( waivers used to be good for one year but now last five years). Over the years these waivers have cost me thousands of dollars for a charge that I received a $50 fine for. I haven't bothered to reapply for a new waiver since mine ran out in 2008.
And if all this isn't enough then there's more - even with a waiver you are treated no different than public enemy #1 when you cross the border. As soon as they type in your name the bells and buzzers go off and half a dozen officers converge on your vehicle. Then they drag you inside and go thru your paperwork before they send you on your humiliated way. This usally takes anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour.
I can go anywhere in the world EXCEPT the USA...because of a 31 year old pot charge...
Posted 04/20/2010 at 04:47:15 PM
New Brunswick said:
sorry...1979 not 1980...had 1980 on the brain...
Posted 04/20/2010 at 07:09:46 PM
sunny said:
i think you all are missing the point...this picture is HILARIOUS
Posted 04/26/2010 at 08:24:41 PM
David said:
Isn't there a statute of limitations that says you can't be charged for a crime 30 years later?
Posted 04/27/2010 at 06:08:11 AM
IXLNXS said:
Your rights and what is right do not matter any longer.
What matters is the corporations rights and their total profits.
When the rich run the country the poor can expect no help.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 06:20:08 AM
just a thought... replied to IXLNXS:
While I agree this is completely ridiculous, and I also believe that MJ should be legalized, one thing that seems to escape alot of you is that Canadians don't have rights in the US. You can talk about our rights, our rights!, but no rights are being violated in this case, because this woman isn't a citizen of the US and as such is not protected by our constitution.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 07:38:17 PM
Tech said:
Well I'm sure glad our Nazi police and corporate fascist police are using my tax dollars to keep her off the streets! Too bad the idiots that run this country are bringing it in by the plane and truckload! Bill Clinton and the Bush crime family? Mena? See when the dealers in south Florida made the dumb mistake of depositing billions into the Fed bank the big boys said whoah! HW invades Panama to seize all the money down there and all the money in Miami too then they took over with the CIA and military. Fly it right into military bases, the Colombian express.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 06:49:17 AM
anders wasen said:
Custom and police only followed the law not common sense and humanity. I am glad not to be a taxpayer in US paying for such foolishness. Imagine the costs for extradition.
Who wants to go to such a paranoic country.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 06:55:49 AM
RFW said:
Two comments:
First, there's an old saying "Justice delayed is justice denied." Taking up an old charge like this after 30 years is certainly delayed justice, and for that reason it's not justice at all. The American legal system needs to learn to forgive and forget ancient charges they haven't been able to successfully prosecute. Yes, I'm thinking of Roman Polanski, too. The Roman Polanski of today is not the creepy Roman Polanski of 30 years ago.
What on earth is the purpose of punishing someone so long after an offense? It's like smacking a teenager for dumping their babyfood on the floor when they were two years old.
Second, when recreational marijuana is finally legalized, as it will be within a few years, I hope there's a law that says that dangerous drugs like tobacco can't be mixed in with it. It's very important to keep the tobacco cartel away from marijuana, in my opinion. Otherwise, they'll use it as a way of addicting youngsters to the filth they sell now.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 09:50:53 AM
Elrod said:
Complete and total insanity.
Consider the cost of doing this ...
Consider the value received from doing this ...
Complete and total insanity, redux.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 11:22:34 AM
Travis Johnson said:
Did anyone else notice that her original arrest date was April Fool's Day (U.S., obviously)?
And who cares at this point? Yes, 12 year olds shouldn't do bong rips, but adults who consume cannabis for medical or recreational reason should be left alone, and stop wasting taxpayers' money on a garbage law, based upon Mexi-phoba from1933.
This is insane. Genuinely undersigned by the msnabelow.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 11:39:24 AM
autumnjade said:
Are you KIDDING me? Wow. This is your government, hard at work. Why not make a educated decision and look for people who are a threat NOW...not 30 years ago. America is full of morons.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 12:07:03 PM
The Fat River said:
Stop criminalinzg innocents.
How bloody depressing is this?
I'm going to go deficate on a nicely-maintained place where someone honourable is planted for inevitable composting.
Won't solve much, but I'll be xlear,conciously.
Posted 04/27/2010 at 12:13:50 PM
jerry pritikin said:
God Bless America... It spends million and millions of $$$ to find Bin Laden, and years and years to arrest Bernard Madoff... but some how, they can catch a LOL, who was a "big" time dealer, delivering a pound or 2 of weed from 1980... Some how, registered sex offenders can live next to schools for years, and they never get caught... There's is something rotten with a the system that allows this to happen... and they spend billions on bail outs of banks, that
get slapped on the hands with feather dusters...
I better watch out, I once tore the label off a pillow, that had a "do not remove, under penalty of the law!"
Posted 04/27/2010 at 06:35:22 PM
AcidRush said:
Basically. She will not even be slapped on the wrist. The charges will be dropped and she will be set free of her own recognisance. Statute of limitations is a bitch and is 10yrs nationwide except when it involves murder or a gross felony like bank robbery. So basically they not only wasted your, money but all of ours to extradite poor granny who was trying to get her smoke on 30 f-in yrs ago. God Bless America and its dumbass legal system. Legalize it already.
Posted 04/28/2010 at 01:31:12 AM
ElectroPig said:
[SARCASM]She was obviously a grave national security risk! Weren't you people paying attention!
She's obviously "gotten away with her criminal behaviour" for decades!
Such people need to learn that statutes like those for cannabis prohibition are written for a reason! (To take your money, and exert control on people who've never hurt anyone else in their lives!)
Letting this woman go will send a clear message to the criminals in society who think that smoking a non-toxic herb known to cure cancer, mitigate diabetes, lessen effects of glaucoma and many other diseases...the government doesn't want you to live your life until THEY give you permission!
[/SARCASM]
Whenever people realize that you're only a slave if you ACCEPT SLAVERY without fighting back, things will change for the better. If that day never comes, things are only going to keep getting more and more ridiculous...and dangerous for citizens.
Posted 04/28/2010 at 09:32:58 AM
Rob said:
How brave of our self-proclaimed guardians to kidnap a 74 year old woman who apparently has harmed no one and isn't a threat to anyone.
This idiotic "War on Drugs" has run roughshod over our former liberties and rights, and makes a mockery of our common law traditions and even common sense. Why in the world would that warrant even be considered "active" 30 years later? What happened to the common law concepts behind the "statue of limitations"? Is the possession of a common plant really equivalent to murder, so that an alleged violation never expires?
Posted 04/28/2010 at 09:42:40 AM
Shane said:
To all the people saying nay to leagalizing MJ. I say give it some deep thought - look at all the facts and then make a choice. The Facts are already stated here over and over. My wife was taking Dilaudid (heroin) for back pain - a protruded disk in her back (her back has been out of sort for about 10 years) she's replaced this with pain treatment using MJ - her life has NEVER been better, and she's avoided back surgery ...every case is different - but there are thousands of stories just like hers. ALL drugs should be leagal - this IS a health tratement issue - NOT a criminal justice issue.
Posted 04/29/2010 at 09:52:12 AM
Christian said:
This is outrageous. The government is ridiculous. There are rapist, serial killers, and child predators are on the loose and were more concerned about an old lady that likes to get stoned. That's stupid. Who is she harming? No one! It really is an issue of money. The government is just retarded and doesn't understand the legalizing weed will bring in revenue. Not to mention that fact that there are 85,000 deaths per year that are related to alcohol. Also there are 32,000 deaths per year due to adverse reactions of prescription med. Pharmaceuticals are ruining us. Though don't get it twisted some medications are useful, but many are dangerous and addicting. Weed has never done enough damage for ay government to be making this big of a deal about it. I hope she gets off on this charge and rolls a fatty blunt. Smoke up Grandma Your a true G. Word life.
Posted 04/30/2010 at 08:27:19 PM
hfdsak said:
Haha, I'd love to see the jury at this trial. Who the fck is going to convict grandma on a 30-year-old pot charge? I'd sue for false arrest.
Posted 05/10/2010 at 11:56:55 PM
Old Scratch said:
Smoking has been around since man found fire. This country has forgotten its history. Tobacco was not introduced to this country until the late 18th century. Having been involved in archiology, the most common finds are pipes. In questioning archiology professors, they will point out that our fore-fathers smoked marijuana. I have also found bills of sale for "hemp for personal consumption" from the early 1700's. Wake up America, our fore-fathers smoked pot and (due to lack of potable water) drank ALL THE TIME! Our constitution was written by men who were high on marijuana.
Posted 07/16/2010 at 08:09:03 PM
Kelly said:
here here Old Scratch...Simply Said....OMG this isnt the house of commons... its a pot charge on a 70 something yr old woman... I think we have bigger and better fish to fry
Posted 07/24/2010 at 07:16:54 PM




