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TaxAndControl2010 said:
Learn more about the campaign to legalize, control, and tax cannabis in California at www.taxcannabis.org. And become a fan of the campaign on Facebook at www.facebook.com/taxcannabis. Thanks!
Posted 07/27/2010 at 01:22:16 PM
Anonymous replied to TaxAndControl2010:
I absolutely agree and support this bill. Is there any way to become a fan anonymously?
I'm not a California resident but I will definitely think about becoming a resident if this passes!
Posted 08/02/2010 at 06:45:09 PM
Cheryl Shuman said:
This is GREAT news!!!! Congratulations to everyone for their hard work. We must continue to get people to vote for this !
Respectfully,
Cheryl Shuman
Beverly Hills, California
Posted 07/27/2010 at 06:32:42 PM
jeff said:
this is good news but we cant get complacent. i have been telling everyone who will listen that we have to keep the pressure on and get people out to the polls in november. don't forget that the conservatives will be turning out in force to 'take california back from the liberals' and while they are there, they are going to almost certainly vote against 19. we have a perfect storm of conditions that make passage look really good and we can't blow it; we may not get another chance for many years.
-We have to get people out to their polling places.
-Plan parties on election day and go vote as a group.
-make sure all your friends, cannabis using or not, are registered to vote
-spread the word!! make sure everyone you know knows about 19.
-emphasize the fact that a shit ton of money will be made from taxing it and (and this gets left out) the money not lost to jailing non-violent cannabis users.
we're almost there california. if we pass it, the other states will follow.
Posted 07/28/2010 at 11:17:23 PM
MM said:
Maybe they can stop selling off every asset they have now and the constant budget cuts...
Sanity and reason in America, what a good sign!
Posted 07/28/2010 at 11:36:00 PM
>.< said:
That's stupid, if people really think marijuana is treatment for chronic illness, why is there an age limit of 21?
Stop hiding behind legal facade, it's okay if you want to be high all the time, at least have the ballz to own up!
Posted 07/28/2010 at 11:44:17 PM
Jack Flash said:
Hey ">.
Idiot.
In answer to your attempt at an argument:
1) The reason cannabis might not be prescribed to people under 21 is not due to its lack of efficacy, it's because of the irrational stigma attached to the plant and regurgitated by people like you.
It's fine to give kids speed and SSRIs to control their behaviour, but cannabis? Nooooo! That's a drug!
1a) Also, chronic illness is significantly less common among young people (the clue's in the name 'chronic').
2) Personally, I feel a little disgusted that the argument to end cannabis prohibition has to be made in the form of begging for the sick and dying to be allowed to relieve their suffering. It's a sad state of affairs when the debate has to framed in this way to see even a flicker of compassion from those with the power to change such things (and often not even that).
My view on cannabis is that personal, recreational use is my inalienable right - one that I exercise whenever I feel like it. Medicinal use is a no-brainer and denying people access is actively evil.
Posted 07/29/2010 at 01:11:22 AM
Brian said:
Marijuana is shown to mentally stunt the growth of the brain on young people. 21 seems reasonable enough to me, especially when compared to alcohol.
Posted 07/29/2010 at 01:54:19 AM
Amanda said:
And its about damn time.
The war on drugs is a vestige of crappy ignorant conservative policy left to us by one crappy conservative president, Mr. Tricky Dick Nixon himself.
Lets grow up America. Lets behave, think and vote as rational adults instead of scardy cat infantile social conservative bumpkins overdosed on tea and church stupid fear.
Legalize and tax, its the only sane thing to do.
Posted 07/29/2010 at 02:47:44 AM
aJoke replied to Amanda:
"In 1937 the F.D. Roosevelt administration crafted the 1937 Marihuana Tax Act, the first US national law making cannabis possession illegal via an unpayable tax on the drug."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_prohibition
Saying this is purely a Republican evil is ignoring the facts. This is about an over reaching government pushing a false sense of morality on its people and profiting from the money they make on prisons, expanded law enforcement, and lobbyist.
Posted 07/29/2010 at 03:53:20 PM
Amanda said:
And its about damn time.
The war on drugs is a vestige of crappy ignorant conservative policy left to us by one crappy conservative president, Mr. Tricky Dick Nixon himself.
Lets grow up America. Lets behave, think and vote as rational adults instead of scardy cat infantile social conservative bumpkins overdosed on tea and church stupid fear.
Legalize and tax, its the only sane thing to do.
Posted 07/29/2010 at 02:56:36 AM
Markjack said:
Step by step, until the prohibition ends. Full legalization on a statewide level is a huge leap in the right direction. Everyone needs to remember to stay vigilant however, the election is still 3 months away, so stay involved, stay active, keep contributing what you can, and spreading the word. Don't take anything for granted.
Posted 07/29/2010 at 02:57:20 AM
Jack Devo said:
Wow, now thats what I am talking about. Well done.
Lou
www.anonymous-surfing.es.tc
Posted 07/29/2010 at 06:29:06 AM
Anonymous said:
30+ years of lies and propaganda, but people are starting to finally through the the bullshit. Maybe there is hope for humanity after all?
Posted 07/29/2010 at 08:00:00 AM
Helpful said:
If you know anyone who is still sitting on the fence about which way to vote have them watch the documentary "The Union: The Business of Getting High". My sister was against cannabis legalization, and now after watching it, she's for it. If you have Netflix or know someone who does you can stream it for free to your PC, PS3, Xbox360 0r Wii.
Posted 07/29/2010 at 11:11:00 AM
Anonymous said:
See Nate Silver's (of 538.com) interesting analysis of this data. It's not as clear cut in favor of legalization as it seems.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/07/broadus-effect-social-desirability-bias.html
Posted 07/29/2010 at 11:44:44 AM
bongloads said:
it wont get legalized it doesnt matter what polls say.. or even if it wins in November. If prop 19 actually wins... it will be veto'ed by the president or whoever else can in the federal government. The feds have not been involved in this prop 19 at all, even though it affects the whole country because feds dont want California to be the drug dealing state. and why would they? because they are still going to put people in prison for using in the same country as A state which completely legalizes the substance?
VERY doubtful.
and another reason the polls show us winning is because mainly potheads are visiting the poll websites. conservatives dont care about the pre polling and will just show up in November to vote.
im I the only stoner that has a thought process?
Posted 07/29/2010 at 11:59:44 AM
Benjamin replied to bongloads:
Wow, where to start?
The President cannot veto state laws. Neither can Congress. And the President has indicated a great reluctance to take on the marijuana fight in places where people have made it clear they're ok with its use.
Federal laws still apply, but it's doubtful the Federal government would focus on individual drug users (indeed, they don't now); they're more likely, should this pass, to focus on stopping drugs from coming into the country and eradicating grow operations on National Park land, both of which actually seem like decent uses of time and resources.
Finally, the polling that this article makes reference to isn't an online "poll," where anyone can vote however they please. PPP and other professional pollsters select those whom they interview to be a representative sample of the population that they're polling -- representative by age, race, gender, income, etc. So the idea that it's all potheads weighing in and conservatives aren't taking part just doesn't make sense.
If anything, the ongoing cell phone polling bias would have a greater effect (pollsters can't call cell phones, which means young people, who disproportionately have only a cell phone, are sometimes undercounted).
Posted 07/29/2010 at 05:18:54 PM
Host said:
CA can legalize Mary Jane, but won't let Mary marry Jane!!!!! Weird place!
Posted 07/29/2010 at 12:11:57 PM
No toke said:
I might consider voting for it if Ca sold all of it's voting booths
Posted 07/29/2010 at 12:27:01 PM
none said:
@bongloads
I wanted to point out a few things:
1) The president is unlikely to overturn this proposition because it is supported by the swing groups that got him elected. California is one of the biggest states in the Union, if President Obama wants to be elected in 2012 he will likely need to pick up California.
2) This was not an Internet poll. While I could not find out exactly how the poll was conducted, it seems to be phone based. As evidenced by the questions asked.
3) It's more likely this poll under-represents Liberals than Conservatives. Younger voters tend to vote more liberally, and are more likely to own a cellphone rather than a land-line phone. Since Pollsters cannot call cell phones under U.S law young, Liberal voters, are often under-represented in telephone polls.
Posted 07/29/2010 at 04:00:36 PM
Anonymous said:
If this passes, the next step is to contact your Senator and House members (http://www.contactingthecongress.org/cgi-bin/newseek.cgi?site=ctc&state=ca) and encourage them to submit legislation to remove marijuana from the Controlled Substances Act.
Anyone from one of the other 13 states that permit medical marijuana should contact their Senator & House members to encourage them to do the same or at a minimum, submit legislation to re-classify marijuana to a Schedule III or IV drug.
Posted 07/29/2010 at 05:00:45 PM
Anonymous said:
We are so much waiting this poll in Finland as well! Because all our drug laws comes from UN. (And UN has based those laws on "US war against drugs"-nonsense. When you guys legalize it in CA it will slowly get legalized around the world. And someday (maybe one of the latest countries) Finland also legalizes it.
Greeting from Finland to CA. Greez to all hard workers around this issue!
Posted 07/30/2010 at 05:08:49 AM
steev said:
I just hope every-one doesn't start to celebrate early , get stoned and forget to vote
Posted 08/06/2010 at 08:53:17 AM
nedmorlef said:
the police aren't going to stand by and watch their golden calf get away. they do countless otherwise illegal probable cause searches based on odor.
some police departments are heavily funded by stealing millions in land and cash from cannabis users.
they will actually have to go after real drug dealers now.they don't like it when the perps fight back.
we may see another vote similar to the one that made george bush president.something is going to happen to disrupt this vote.
Posted 08/16/2010 at 03:22:07 AM

